Comments on: The Postal Strike of 1970 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:49:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Gary http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-5331 Gary Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:57 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-5331 Well I hafta tell ya, Ive been involved in strike action before.. Its very stressfull.. Families depending on the breadwinner suddenly have grave fears for their future. My advice.. take a Golden handshake.. and set your self up in some little cottage industry business.. Dont buy into Franchises.. they rip you off EVERY time.. be brave.. and start off doing something for yourself ..its easy actually.. I have started 3 business from scratch.. Carpet cleaning Roller shutters and Garage door sales.. all great.. try working on Commission.. if you have some $$ behind you.. you can take your time and get some sales happening quick.. Right now Solar power is BIG.. JUST DO IT.. Well I hafta tell ya, Ive been involved in strike action before.. Its very stressfull.. Families depending on the breadwinner suddenly have grave fears for their future.
My advice.. take a Golden handshake.. and set your self up in some little cottage industry business.. Dont buy into Franchises.. they rip you off EVERY time.. be brave.. and start off doing something for yourself ..its easy actually.. I have started 3 business from scratch.. Carpet cleaning Roller shutters and Garage door sales.. all great.. try working on Commission.. if you have some $$ behind you.. you can take your time and get some sales happening quick.. Right now Solar power is BIG..
JUST DO IT..

]]> By: Mike Sander http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-5035 Mike Sander Sat, 29 May 2010 02:00:51 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-5035 While it is extremely unsettling that a group of people have the power to bring a huge aspect of our society to a grinding halt, I think the same can be said for several other unions which exist. When people witness a grave injustice, the can and should stand up for what is right. The ability to strike keeps the decision makers in check and is an integral part of the freedom we enjoy in this great country of ours. While it is extremely unsettling that a group of people have the power to bring a huge aspect of our society to a grinding halt, I think the same can be said for several other unions which exist.

When people witness a grave injustice, the can and should stand up for what is right. The ability to strike keeps the decision makers in check and is an integral part of the freedom we enjoy in this great country of ours.

]]> By: Hari http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4362 Hari Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:54:23 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4362 yeah, thtat's the problems... yeah, thtat’s the problems…

]]> By: jrkakapastateradio http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4231 jrkakapastateradio Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:01:18 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4231 Hire a Consultant to strike for you. Then you'll get the benefit of continuing to collect your pay, and maybe you can take a vacation for a while too. Meanwhile, you won't be accountable for your actions. That's what the PRC wants to do, again, about Saturday delivery. And that's what the Executive Offices did, and the Board of Governors, and the Postal Reform Committee, and the OMB, and the GAO have been doing for years. Think of it!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can't lose... "We didn't vote to strike", "Our consultant did!! We simply followed their recommendations." "They came highly recommended by OMB." Remember, your getting what you paid for. You (US) benefits from the actuarial attributable gains. However, (US) you must pay, and suffer from the actuarial losses.... Go for it! If think you've got the salt?... I think there a many-many-many ideas out there, and I think if postal people come together with compromise, you'll survive with limitations. But, it's going to take subsidy to stand up a new 2050 post office. Are you ready to fight? Or are you ready conquer the challenges like those before us? Hire a Consultant to strike for you. Then you’ll get
the benefit of continuing to collect your pay, and
maybe you can take a vacation for a while too.

Meanwhile, you won’t be accountable for your actions.

That’s what the PRC wants to do, again, about Saturday delivery.

And that’s what the Executive Offices did, and the Board of Governors, and the Postal Reform Committee, and the OMB, and the GAO have been doing for years.

Think of it!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can’t lose…

“We didn’t vote to strike”, “Our consultant did!!
We simply followed their recommendations.”

“They came highly recommended by OMB.”

Remember, your getting what you paid for.

You (US) benefits from the actuarial attributable gains.

However, (US) you must pay, and suffer from the actuarial losses….

Go for it! If think you’ve got the salt?…

I think there a many-many-many ideas out there, and
I think if postal people come together with compromise, you’ll survive with limitations.
But, it’s going to take subsidy to stand up a new
2050 post office.
Are you ready to fight? Or are you ready conquer the challenges like those before us?

]]> By: RARC host http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4192 RARC host Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:22:13 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4192 The OIG blog allows only one vote per computer, which it tracks by IP address. So if someone has already voted on this poll using the same computer, the blog will not allow another user to vote. You can still vote by using a different computer. And thank you for voting. We really appreciate your input. The OIG blog allows only one vote per computer, which it tracks by IP address. So if someone has already voted on this poll using the same computer, the blog will not allow another user to vote. You can still vote by using a different computer. And thank you for voting. We really appreciate your input.

]]> By: snake http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4191 snake Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:06:21 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4191 Are you controlling the vote on the polls? It says I already had voted, maybe you didn't like the results???? Are you controlling the vote on the polls? It says I already had voted, maybe you didn’t like the results????

]]> By: MacvTm19 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4190 MacvTm19 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:48:07 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4190 I worked for the Postal Service and am now retired from this outfit. Most postal employees are over paid and need to be run off, the unions protect all the deadwood. Had one clerk that spent 20 years in the same office and still had to be told what to due every 1/2 hour. Most are deadwood !!!!!!!!I belong to the union until they started giving all their funds to the DemocRATS !!!~! Heads of Unions are nothing but thieves just like the current administration !!!!!! I worked for the Postal Service and am now retired from this outfit. Most postal employees are over paid and need to be run off, the unions protect all the deadwood. Had one clerk that spent 20 years in the same office and still had to be told what to due every 1/2 hour. Most are deadwood !!!!!!!!I belong to the union until they started giving all their funds to the DemocRATS !!!~! Heads of Unions are nothing but thieves just like the current administration !!!!!!

]]> By: Red Riding Hood http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4187 Red Riding Hood Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:05:55 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4187 What was the purpose of this article?? Oh, wait....I know.... What was the purpose of this article??

Oh, wait….I know….

]]> By: postalvet http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4185 postalvet Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:21:24 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4185 why doesn't the OIG look into the 34 percent increase in managemnt ranks???? why doesn’t the OIG look into the 34 percent increase in managemnt ranks????

]]> By: anon http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4183 anon Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:54:57 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4183 Archer is correct. While I was a steward doing grievance research, one refrain from the management side and the right wing think tanks kept coming up. "The craft employees of the USPS are the highest paid semi skilled workers in the world." This iteration was used again and again to justify the implementation of automation in order to destroy the ability of postal labor to stop the mail by withholding their labor, Do not ever be fooled. The elite who run things in this nation have a long memory and are seeking to return us to the conditions we enjoyed in the 1890's. We are becoming the Brazil of the North. Archer is correct. While I was a steward doing grievance research, one refrain from the management side and the right wing think tanks kept coming up.

“The craft employees of the USPS are the highest paid semi skilled workers in the world.” This iteration was used again and again to justify the implementation of automation in order to destroy the ability of postal labor to stop the mail by withholding their labor,

Do not ever be fooled. The elite who run things in this nation have a long memory and are seeking to return us to the conditions we enjoyed in the 1890′s.

We are becoming the Brazil of the North.

]]> By: Heydaad http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4181 Heydaad Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:50:39 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4181 I got hired in 1977 ... and left last October. It was a good ride, but the 70's were a different era, Union was the way to go. Today, no one wants to be involved. The only reason you make what you do today is the Union activists like myself who preceded you. The Labor Movement in America is dead because of apathy, and mis-information by the non-union workers who wish they had your job. Get involved now, or see your future fade away. I got hired in 1977 … and left last October. It was a good ride, but the 70′s were a different era, Union was the way to go. Today, no one wants to be involved. The only reason you make what you do today is the Union activists like myself who preceded you. The Labor Movement in America is dead because of apathy, and mis-information by the non-union workers who wish they had your job. Get involved now, or see your future fade away.

]]> By: NYC Bob http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4180 NYC Bob Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:11:32 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4180 If the OIG performed a audit on management practices', e.g., purchasing million dollar homes, awards they give themselves, the layer upon layer of management all performing the same task, the real estate deals which I am positive someone at headquarters receives a kickback, we are paying $10,000 a month for a empty wharehouse. But alas, the OIG turns their report over to the same people who committ these crimes. Come on OIG, audit management practices', become heroes to the workers and the American public. Turn your findings over to Congress, expose the gross incompetence we call postal management. If the OIG performed a audit on management practices’, e.g., purchasing million dollar homes, awards they give themselves, the layer upon layer of management all performing the same task, the real estate deals which I am positive someone at headquarters receives a kickback, we are paying $10,000 a month for a empty wharehouse. But alas, the OIG turns their report over to the same people who committ these crimes. Come on OIG, audit management practices’, become heroes to the workers and the American public. Turn your findings over to Congress, expose the gross incompetence we call postal management.

]]> By: New England Carrier http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4177 New England Carrier Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:47:10 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4177 Maybe if we strike tody the oig will have some work to do instead of talking about something they could'nt handle dealing with anyway. Thank you to all who striked!!!! Maybe if we strike tody the oig will have some work to do instead of talking about something they could’nt handle dealing with anyway. Thank you to all who striked!!!!

]]> By: RAY RAY http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4176 RAY RAY Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:46:16 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4176 I was one of the strikers in 1970. I was a ZMT clerk since changed to an LSM CLERK. It is true we were not disciplined. We continued to be good workers some rose to the management ranks and union ranks. I was in management prior to my retirement three years ago. At the current rate the postal Service will demise by 2013. I would also like to know why has management grown 34%. I have been on several management teams and surveys. Some implementation was warranted and most were not good implementations. I guess some managers have that Nixon theory of Phases to get the job done instead of concrete decisions with the proper vision. Potter has no vision. Please remove him similar to what President Obama did to the General Motors chairman. GET BUSY BOARD OF DIRECTORS!!!!!! I was one of the strikers in 1970. I was a ZMT clerk since changed to an LSM CLERK. It is true we were not disciplined. We continued to be good workers some rose to the management ranks and union ranks. I was in management prior to my retirement three years ago. At the current rate the postal Service will demise by 2013. I would also like to know why has management grown 34%. I have been on several management teams and surveys. Some implementation was warranted and most were not good implementations. I guess some managers have that Nixon theory of Phases to get the job done instead of concrete decisions with the proper vision. Potter has no vision. Please remove him similar to what President Obama did to the General Motors chairman. GET BUSY BOARD OF DIRECTORS!!!!!!

]]> By: WON"T GET FOOLED AGAIN http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4175 WON"T GET FOOLED AGAIN Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4175 Again, the OIG delving into issues they should have no business even commenting on. Do you people see what is going on here? This is the enforcement arm of Potter singing the praises of a POSTAL STRIKE? If you remember, dear reader, Potter wanted to give the unions the ability to strike, if he could have the power of "lockout". Which essentially means you are fired and will not be let back into the facility you work in. HE WANTS US TO STRIKE! He knows anti-union sentiment is running very high and NO ONE would sympathize with a postal strike. It would enable him to shut down more facilities and rid the service of more leeches (as he sees the rank and file). Once again the USPS OIG demonstrates that it is not only "the enforcer" but also the propaganda ministry. Again, the OIG delving into issues they should have no business even commenting on. Do you people see what is going on here? This is the enforcement arm of Potter singing the praises of a POSTAL STRIKE? If you remember, dear reader, Potter wanted to give the unions the ability to strike, if he could have the power of “lockout”. Which essentially means you are fired and will not be let back into the facility you work in. HE WANTS US TO STRIKE! He knows anti-union sentiment is running very high and NO ONE would sympathize with a postal strike. It would enable him to shut down more facilities and rid the service of more leeches (as he sees the rank and file). Once again the USPS OIG demonstrates that it is not only “the enforcer” but also the propaganda ministry.

]]> By: Dan http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4174 Dan Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:56:51 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4174 The OIG's agenda becomes clear when reading their slanted history of the strike. It would like to institute locality pay and eliminate binding arbitration to lower postal labor costs. Just the usual propaganda put out by the Inspector General Office. The OIG’s agenda becomes clear when reading their slanted history of the strike. It would like to institute locality pay and eliminate binding arbitration to lower postal labor costs.

Just the usual propaganda put out by the Inspector General Office.

]]> By: Dangellardfool http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4170 Dangellardfool Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:21:40 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4170 "Postal Service has never been able to exert control over it's labor costs". Binding arbitration was the most importent bill as a result from the strike. It has effectively assured a living wage for craft employees. There is no doubt that our pay level would be much less without arbitration. In Solidarity. “Postal Service has never been able to exert control over it’s labor costs”. Binding arbitration was the most importent bill as a result from the strike. It has effectively assured a living wage for craft employees. There is no doubt that our pay level would be much less without arbitration.
In Solidarity.

]]> By: daddio http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4169 daddio Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:55:52 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4169 This ain't 1970. Postal employees recieve very good pay. What is interesting is Obama's non-delivery to the Postal Unions. This ain’t 1970. Postal employees recieve very good pay. What is interesting is Obama’s non-delivery to the Postal Unions.

]]> By: Archer http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4168 Archer Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:49:35 +0000 http://blog.uspsoig.gov/?p=3092#comment-4168 That was a different time, a different era. If you look at the film clips and photos, you can see that there were mountains of mail to be worked. It was pre-automation, pre mechanization for the most part. The workers had skills. They had scheme knowledge that was required to get the mail out. No one coming in off the street cold could do the job. That isn't how it is now. The mail is sorted by computer program, on machines that even a supervisor can operate when no one's looking. (And they do, constantly) If we were to go on strike today, it wouldn't make a bit of difference in the plants. They could bring in the National Guard, or the illegal Mexicans standing down by the Home Depot, and get the work done. Anyone can do what is done there now, with just a few exceptions. We are dumbed down, skill-less, and not worth the salary we are getting anymore. And that's why the USPS is going to get rid of people, and change as many jobs to part time as possible. That's just the cold hard truth. We are dinosaurs, we are easily replaceable with cheaper labor, and the unions have no real leverage to keep the people, the wages, the benefits, and the working conditions. And believe me, with 16 more years to go, I don't feel good making this comment. I know how replaceable I am. I don't feel secure. That was a different time, a different era. If you look at the film clips and photos, you can see that there were mountains of mail to be worked. It was pre-automation, pre mechanization for the most part. The workers had skills. They had scheme knowledge that was required to get the mail out. No one coming in off the street cold could do the job. That isn’t how it is now. The mail is sorted by computer program, on machines that even a supervisor can operate when no one’s looking. (And they do, constantly)

If we were to go on strike today, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference in the plants. They could bring in the National Guard, or the illegal Mexicans standing down by the Home Depot, and get the work done. Anyone can do what is done there now, with just a few exceptions. We are dumbed down, skill-less, and not worth the salary we are getting anymore. And that’s why the USPS is going to get rid of people, and change as many jobs to part time as possible.

That’s just the cold hard truth. We are dinosaurs, we are easily replaceable with cheaper labor, and the unions have no real leverage to keep the people, the wages, the benefits, and the working conditions. And believe me, with 16 more years to go, I don’t feel good making this comment. I know how replaceable I am. I don’t feel secure.

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